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Really enjoyed the cup, but can't believe we won so easily!!! This must be a watershed for US golf ? What needs to be done for 2006 ? The creaming your guys received has been a long time coming though. It has been evident for some time that the US tour & its highly ranked pros are just far too comfortable eg. why do so many stay at home for the Open, a tournament that was always the highlight of the year for the likes of Big Jack, Arnie etc.. ? The result also shows the importance of teamwork, friendship & togetherness at an event like this. The attitude of one or two of the US players was a disgrace. Surely someone can get them to come together as a team for 2006 ? Forget world rankings, if you're bringing the likes of Mickelson over to K-Club, then it'll be another mauling. Finally, well done to Monty, who finally got his chance to respond in full to the disgraceful treatment he received in 99. Mrs Doubtfire indeed !! "Oh dear, my wee darlings, I think that would be the winning putt"!!

Geez Ali... "long time coming" ? Your guys have been winning this thing on a fairly regular basis for some time now. Very few of our top guys skip the Open & those who do are roundly criticized for it. Monty was well received by the crowds this year, so let's put '99 to bed. It takes a bit of gall for someone from the UK to criticize "disgraceful" fan behavior elsewhere. Have your fun for now ... see you in 2 years.

But Ali, was Sergio's yelling "come on" several times on Sunday, while only a few feet away from Mickelson, ok?

Taking the fans out of this for a minute, don't you think that is showing up your opponent?

I don't think it was. Phil is my favorite player, there's not a close second, and that's tough to say after watcing him play this weekend, and even I don't think Sergio was showing Phil up. But that's the problem the Americans have. Get some emotion. Try and play some mind games. Do any of you watch the poker on ESPN or the Travel Channel? Those players with a mental edge win, every time. I think the Americans are like a beaten little puppy after the Justin Leonard putt a few years ago, now they cower at any sign of emotion, either theirs or their opponents.

Forget the past. Fire up. Get some guys on the team that can match the fire of the Euros.

Isn't the Ryder Cup a lot like Olympic Basketball? On paper, the players from USA were 'better' in both sports. But on the field of play, there was a noticeable difference. Other teams wanted it more. The US lost. They didn't play as well as the others. Because of talent? No. Then what was it? Let's hope they figure it out by 2006.....

I'd have to agree with NDShim. I loved the positive emotion and remember the Euros weren't getting many cheers except for the ones they generated themselves. I even got a kick out of the victory celebration with their fans as much as I was rooting for the US. Now if Sergio had put on a demonstration like that after Phil had missed a shot then that would've been over the line, but I didn't see anything like that.

Nothing can be done except tee it up with the best players we have and try again. I don't think that there's any magic formula or practice regimen to follow. Just play. We just didn't play well enough to win; next time maybe we will.

What do you guys think about only counting points to qualify for the Ryder Cup team the year before the event and not both years? I know the second year counts as double points, right? But still. Maybe we should not count the first year, and make the second year points worth more as the season went on. It'd hopefully get the 10 'hottest' players and it'd make the last 2 months of the season after the British Open more exciting.

It's not a bad idea...somehow elevate the status of points won most recently. But if given the choice, who would you have dropped and who would you have added. My 1st would've been Pavin or Zinger or even Freddie for Sutton.

I give Monty all the credit he has earned. Does the man ever miss a clutch putt?

But I think I read it was one of his own countrymen that gave him the "Mrs. Doubtfire" nickname? For a long time he thought it was David Feherty, who has denied it. But I'm pretty sure it was not someone from the US.

I don't think the Euro's were over the top with their emotions and fist-pumping, the US, on the rare occasions when it was appropriate, did the same thing. Tiger did it the last day, didn't he? I think both teams comported themselves very professionally.

I think both teams comported themselves very professionally.
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Certainly agree with that. The fans are usually the ones who misbehave and this year the fans were great.

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But I think I read it was one of his own countrymen that gave him the "Mrs. Doubtfire" nickname? For a long time he thought it was David Feherty, who has denied it. But I'm pretty sure it was not someone from the US.

It was David Feherty who started the Mrs Doubtfire thing. In fact, after one of the previous Ryder Cups (Brookline), the players were partying in the lounge when Mark James invited Feherty to join the party. When Monty saw Feherty in there, they had to get the Irishman out for his own safety !!

In his book, David Feherty's Totally Subjective History of the Ryder Cup, he attributes the creation of the "Mrs. Doubtfire" nickname for Mony to English pro John Hawksworth. Somehow, everyone got the idea that Feherty was the creator, including Montgomerie, who refused even to be in the same room with Feherty, at one point throwing a plate of salad at him after telling David that he had no right to be in the team room. According to Feherty, he left the gathering willingly out of respect for Monty, who had stomped out of the room, and for his valiant effort in a losing cause.

Yep, you can read all about here:

http://www.golfonline.com/golfonline...690466,00.html

It's a great article.

Thanks for that link, Jogi... I am sitting at work, laughing out loud... my co-workers must think i am losing it!