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Old September 20th, 2004, 01:13 PM
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a good list of arm strength and while not as "mobile" as mike vick or some others, the postion requires athletic ability and most of these qb's starred at other sports in high school.

to say golf is just as athletic as the QB position is mind boggling and a bit crazy.

tommy maddux.....looks un athletic in the NFL but was an all american in basketball and baseball in high school. you are judging htese players against superiour athletes on the defensive side of the ball.

let me get this straight though: you are honestly saying that it requires just as much athletic skill to be a golfer as it does a QB or baseball player?

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Old September 20th, 2004, 01:17 PM
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Nicklaus was offered a hoops scholarship at OSU around the time it was a 2-time National Champ. Irwin was an all-Big-8 D-back. I'm sure there are other golfers with world class potential in other sports, but once you realize you have world class golf potential why would you want to do anything else ????
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Old September 20th, 2004, 01:20 PM
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Nicklaus was offered a hoops scholarship at OSU around the time it was a 2-time National Champ. Irwin was an all-Big-8 D-back. I'm sure there are other golfers with world class potential in other sports, but once you realize you have world class golf potential why would you want to do anything else ????
my point is not that no good athletes play golf its just that golf doesnt require as much athletic ability to be good at the sport as others.

and you might want to re-check the nicklaus basketball stat. that isnt true.

he had some baseball offers but no basketball at all.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 01:32 PM
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a good list of arm strength and while not as "mobile" as mike vick or some others, the postion requires athletic ability and most of these qb's starred at other sports in high school.

to say golf is just as athletic as the QB position is mind boggling and a bit crazy.

tommy maddux.....looks un athletic in the NFL but was an all american in basketball and baseball in high school. you are judging htese players against superiour athletes on the defensive side of the ball.

let me get this straight though: you are honestly saying that it requires just as much athletic skill to be a golfer as it does a QB or baseball player?

Arm strength is a distant 2nd to accuracy when it comes to QBs. There are high schoolers that can throw it harder and longer than many on that list. There are also many golfers who excelled at other sports in school. It takes more courage to be a QB than a golfer, not greater athleticism. There are QBs who have the athletic skills you mention, but it is by no means a requirement(see my list). If you maintain that it takes more athleticism to throw a football quickly and accurately than it does to hit a golf ball long and accurately, then we'll have to agree to disagree. Again with baseball, there are some players that have the athletic skills you prefer, but they are by no means required.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 01:35 PM
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golf is the hardest game to master. that is something we all agree on.

all i am saying is that it doesnt require much athletic ability at all to be above average like in most soprts.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 02:06 PM
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guess it depends on what your definition of 'athletic ability' is.....playing golf well really means you the ability to do it, but may or may not be athletic......



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Of or befitting athletics or athletes.

Characterized by or involving physical activity or exertion; active: an athletic lifestyle; an athletic child.

Physically strong and well-developed; muscular: an actor with an athletic build. See Synonyms at muscular



a·bil·i·ty ** (*P*)**Pronunciation Key**(-bl-t)
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A natural or acquired skill or talent.

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Old September 20th, 2004, 02:30 PM
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There are positions and roles in baseball and football that require the running/jumping/strength that your definition of athlete requires, but there are some very important ones that don't. True, golf doesn't require these attributes, although strength certainly helps as it does with pitchers & QBs. In fact I think pitchers & QBs have much in common with golfers athletically as those are the guys(kickers too) you generally find at the top of the leaderboards in the celebrity tournys. I'd be very surprised if most touring pros did not excel at some other sport when they were young. There are too many other sports skills that place a premium on the hand-eye coordination, balance & body control that golf requires.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 03:35 PM
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I think the problem many have with golf is perception. Those of us who claim golf is a sport and requires athleticism are comparing the PGA Tour Players with MLB, NFL, NBA, etc. Those people who claim golf is not a sport are comparing those same professional sports with their Saturday foursome. To be a world class participant in ANY sport requires one to be an athlete although as has already been pointed out, the athletic skills required for one sport may not be as important in another but they are still required.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 05:54 PM
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wATCH how awkwardly players fist pumpp after big shots in golf. its embarassing.
The fear inducing "fist pump".....now there's an athletic skill we just don't see enough of.
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