After decades of American domination, the Ryder Cup format was changed about 25 years ago, to allow the GB and Ireland team to include European nations. This was to make the matches more competitive.
Surely now, after Europe winning 4 out of the last 5 (and even Butch Harmon said yesterday it should really be 5 out of 5), the Ryder Cup format needs to be changed. It isn't a competitive match any more, because the American players fail to appreciate that they are a TEAM. Even playing on their own in the singles the Europeans triumphed 7.5 to 4.5.
Perhaps the Presidents Cup should be scrapped, and the Rest of the World players such as Els, Singh, Goosen etc could help the American team to provide a competitive game for the Europeans ?
well thank goodness golf isnt a team sport. its an individual sport and its usually determined on fewest number of strokes spread out over a 4 day period.
us americans dominate europe and the rest of the world in that aspect of the game. our tour is 50 times more competitive and the quality is 100 times better.
its the team aspect that gets us but i guess overall we still have the best individual golfers when it comes to stroke play, which in essence is the way golf is played.
If you think that the US Tour is 50 times more competitive, and that the US players are 100 times better, maybe you could teach them how to hole a clutch putt when the pressure is hot. ****, you could be the next captain. You sound more inspirational than Sutton. Maybe you could let players practice on their own too, or rest your best player if he's a bit tired, or come up with the imaginative ploy of not picking a singles order, just send them out in ranking points order. Hmmmm.
Last edited by valeogut : September 20th, 2004 at 01:08 PM.
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Oh, another thing Johnny. For the month leading up to the Ryder Cup, the European players won far, far more World Ranking points in strokeplay events than the US players, so your arrogant argument doesn't really stack up.
All of the American message posters have shown good grace in defeat, except you. Did you have a bad round on Sunday morning ?????
well, that was convincing wasn't it ! the big hole in the argument is that the ryder cup is every bit as big as any major & in many ways the ultimate golfing test - your guys know that & they came up well short of the mark. Ok, you can still make an argument for us tour being greatest show on earth, but careful you don't get too complacent.
well, that was convincing wasn't it ! the big hole in the argument is that the ryder cup is every bit as big as any major & in many ways the ultimate golfing test - your guys know that & they came up well short of the mark. Ok, you can still make an argument for us tour being greatest show on earth, but careful you don't get too complacent.
i disagree:
how many majors did jack win?
what was jack's ryder cup record?
see what i mean? which question is easier to answer?
see what i mean? which question is easier to answer?
Well you're right, the Ryder Cup wasn't that big in Jack's time when they were just playing GBR. But guess what... it is now. In fact it is golfing's single biggest event and to say that the Euro tour is 50 x worse & the Euro players are 100 x worse... well that's just silly, to put it as politely as I can.
look at the records and wins of all the ameircan players versus. the europeans.
stats back up my comments. in stroke play, 4 day events...american's dominate.
and that is how golf is played. ryder cup is ecvery 2 years. stroke play is every week of every year and ameircans dominate this.
ameican's dominate the golf that counts. europe dominates the every other year events. lol
America dominates the golf that counts, so the Ryder cup is nothing basically because you lost AGAIN. The europeans play all over the world including the USA, your so called domineering players barely leave your shores thus limiting them to basic target golf. We`ve now mastered any course set up the PGA can throw at us, fast greens and bermuda grass ar`nt a worry anymore.
America dominates in America, Woo Bloody Who!
Your team didn't bond, they played **** and should concentrate on getting the insignificant Ryder cup back on US soil, which might be slightly harder as we have `out of bounds` on our courses so that`ll right Tiger off for a start.
Last edited by shaderunner : August 1st, 2006 at 07:29 PM.
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Well you're right, the Ryder Cup wasn't that big in Jack's time when they were just playing GBR. But guess what... it is now. In fact it is golfing's single biggest event and to say that the Euro tour is 50 x worse & the Euro players are 100 x worse... well that's just silly, to put it as politely as I can.
have you watched 4 days of european tour golf?
is there anyone out of the top 10 on the order of merit you can name? if you are any good you come play the PGA tour. its pretty simple and all players will agree with that.
and belive me.....you will never hear this in the future:
tiger would have been the best player of all time if it weren't for his ryder cup record.
September 20th, 2004, 11:29 AM
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