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Old November 17th, 2004, 08:07 PM
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Why the Americans will not win the Ryder cup 2006

I just read an article where Tiger Woods have ripped the PGA for picking Tom Lehman and not Mark Omeara. This story will not go away and the 2006 American Ryder cup team and captain will be forever trying to sweep it under the carpet. Tiger Woods is not a team Player and I for one think he should not be on the Ryder cup team. His record speaks for itself.
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Old November 17th, 2004, 09:51 PM
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That is dead wrong...the Americans will not lose the Ryder Cup in 2006 because of something Tiger Woods said here in 2004...they will lose it because they will be the less talented team, hands down.

Phil Mickelson and Davis Love III have similar records to Tiger in Ryder Cup play (although Mickelson is over .500, he's been abysmal in team competitions lately, goint 1-8 in the President's and Ryder Cup the past two years), so do you think they should be barred from playing as well?
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Old November 17th, 2004, 10:28 PM
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No they will lose because they won't booze. I believe the inventory count of alchohal consumption on the US side was a six pack of beer. The Euro's had soo much they stoped counting (sounds like one of my parties).
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Old November 17th, 2004, 10:32 PM
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The American team loses for two reasons. One, they take their own performance too seriously. Two, thye have forgotten how to have fun. Until the American's learn how to loosen up they will continue to lose.
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Old November 17th, 2004, 10:39 PM
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Also, all of my joking aside they didn't practice for the partner portion of the cup. I watched them practice on Tuesday and the Euros were trying out differnt pairings for alternate shot and best ball, but the Americans were just out playing in 2, 3, 4, and even a 5 some. They were all just playing their own ball. I think the Americans came in too serious about their own personal performance and not prepared enough.
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Old November 18th, 2004, 07:42 AM
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Also, all of my joking aside they didn't practice for the partner portion of the cup. I watched them practice on Tuesday and the Euros were trying out differnt pairings for alternate shot and best ball, but the Americans were just out playing in 2, 3, 4, and even a 5 some. They were all just playing their own ball. I think the Americans came in too serious about their own personal performance and not prepared enough.
Allen, Peter Kostis makes this same point in the December issue of Golf Magazine: "The U.S. team was woefully unprepared. It was yet another instance of a highly favored better-on-paper American national team's going in arrogant and coming out embarrassed."
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Old November 18th, 2004, 08:14 AM
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The Americans do not have time to prepare. They are too busy trying to drive all the cars they each own.
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Old November 18th, 2004, 09:11 AM
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I'm not a big Tiger fan, but he does have a point here. Lehman is a rather odd choice when you have guys, roughly the same age, like O'Meara, Couples & Zinger with far more impressive resumes as players.
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Old November 18th, 2004, 09:30 AM
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The US team will not win because they dont know how to have fun is just one reason. They wont win IMO because they dont know how to play as a "team". That's it in a nutshell. Too much ego and not enough team atmosphere is their downfall.

As for the beer factor................
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Old November 18th, 2004, 09:31 AM
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Lehman may be tighter with the PGA because he has served for quite a while as president of its PGA Tour Partners Club. Could that be a factor?
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Old November 18th, 2004, 09:36 AM
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I think I read somewhere that O'Meara wasn't interested.

IMO O'Meara, with his love of Irish golf, would have been the logical choice, although his well-known closeness with Tiger may have weighed against him?
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I say if Tiger is soooooooooooooooo concerned that his pal wasn't picked because of being Irish(Tiger thought O'Meara should have been picked because he is Irish and the Ryder Cup is being played in Ireland) that he conform to the same logic. He isn't Irish therefore he shouldn't play.
What a load from the Kitty. With Tiger's record, if I were Captain I'd ask him to sit out anyway and allow someone that WANTS to be there, play!
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And as for the comments by some of the Brits: Yeah most Americans don't have passports...................... SO WHAT! We feel safe travelling back and forth from our little countries(our States) and we ARE so safe we don't need to keep track of who is coming and who is going like you guys do. NOW who is nieve about the world?
These Europeans think they are sooooooooooooooooo 'worldly'. When's the last time they spent time in the U.S. other than NewYork or Los Angeles or Chicago? Come to my little town and find out what America is REALLY like. These chaps are about to chap my.........................

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Old November 18th, 2004, 10:21 AM
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I say if Tiger is soooooooooooooooo concerned that his pal wasn't picked because of being Irish(Tiger thought O'Meara should have been picked because he is Irish and the Ryder Cup is being played in Ireland) that he conform to the same logic. He isn't Irish therefore he shouldn't play.
What a load from the Kitty. With Tiger's record, if I were Captain I'd ask him to sit out anyway and allow someone that WANTS to be there, play!
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Tiger would probably be happy to oblige too! Notice he's playing a tournament in Japan with prize money totalling less than $2M, instead of appearing at the World Cup to represent his country. I wonder how much the Japanese are paying him to turn up?
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Old November 18th, 2004, 10:24 AM
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Tiger said O'Meara was very disappointed. He said that maybe it had something to do with the controversy over he & O'Meara suggesting that some of the Ryder Cup Profits go to the players' charities of choice a few years ago. It's kind of hard to figure. Take nothing away from Lehman, but he's won 5 tournaments. Freddie, Zinger & O'Meara have all won like 3 times that & more majors as well. I could see Couples maybe not being interested, but I think O'Meara & Zinger would have jumped at it. Some sort of politics at work here...
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Old November 18th, 2004, 10:32 AM
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I say if Tiger is soooooooooooooooo concerned that his pal wasn't picked because of being Irish(Tiger thought O'Meara should have been picked because he is Irish and the Ryder Cup is being played in Ireland) that he conform to the same logic. He isn't Irish therefore he shouldn't play.
Tiger isn't Irish, therefore HE shouldn't be "Captain" either. There's no logic in Tiger not playing because he's not Irish. O'Meara can still play, he just has to earn his way onto the team. Like he'd help the team!

Tiger's just sticking up for his friend and he's intitled to his opinion. Like you, I disagree with Tiger's opinion on this, but I'd be behind my friend if I were in that situation. Wouldn't you?
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