Is there anymore doubt as to what she may be able to accomplish as an LPGA tour regular ? Tiger was never even romotely as successfull at this stage of his carreer against the best of the pros.
Michelle's T2 was certainly impressive, and I don't doubt that someday, she'll make a superstar LPGA player, but let's not forget that it was still an event in Hawaii, near her home, so it was essentially a "home match" again. I'm looking forward to seeing how she does at some events on the mainland before I make a judgement on how she'd do this year if she were playing full-time.
Since you bring up Tiger, male vs. female developmental differences made it impossible for Tiger to have a chance against the top PGA Tour players at that age. I'll continue to reiterate that until people realize that a 14 year old boy cannot and will never be able to compete against fully grown men as well as a 14 year old girl can compete against adult ladies.
Is there anymore doubt as to what she may be able to accomplish as an LPGA tour regular ? Tiger was never even romotely as successfull at this stage of his carreer against the best of the pros.
Sure, there's still doubt, and there will be until she becomes a LPGA regular with the added pressure of performing for a living. It's a great start for Wie, but let's not go overboard about her playing well on another local course against a weak field. Let's see how she fares on the mainland against the stars of the LPGA.
Stop with the Tiger comparison's will ya? Tiger at 14 wasn't competing against LPGA talent. He was competing against the best players in the world. If Wie comes within light years of accomplishing in her career what Tiger has........then maybe you can compare them. Until then, any comparison between Woods and Wie is about as apples and oranges as you can get.
Sure, there's still doubt, and there will be until she becomes a LPGA regular with the added pressure of performing for a living. It's a great start for Wie, but let's not go overboard about her playing well on another local course against a weak field. Let's see how she fares on the mainland against the stars of the LPGA.
Stop with the Tiger comparison's will ya? Tiger at 14 wasn't competing against LPGA talent. He was competing against the best players in the world. If Wie comes within light years of accomplishing in her career what Tiger has........then maybe you can compare them. Until then, any comparison between Woods and Wie is about as apples and oranges as you can get.
Wie won't have to worry about playing for her supper anytime soon or ever unless her game has a serious regression. I'm comparing her against the best of the Ladies as apposed to Tiger against the best of the guys at similar points in their careers. Tiger did nothing against the pros until he became one at what 20 ? I don't care where she's playing... 2'nd place beats anything Tiger did until he was out of his teens. They've taken different paths career-wise, but I think she compares very favorably by any yardstick.
Wie won't have to worry about playing for her supper anytime soon or ever unless her game has a serious regression. I'm comparing her against the best of the Ladies as apposed to Tiger against the best of the guys at similar points in their careers. Tiger did nothing against the pros until he became one at what 20 ? I don't care where she's playing... 2'nd place beats anything Tiger did until he was out of his teens. They've taken different paths career-wise, but I think she compares very favorably by any yardstick.
An apple is still an apple and an orange is still an orange. Comparing the teen years of those two is fruitless.
An apple is still an apple and an orange is still an orange. Comparing the teen years of those two is fruitless.
I'm just comparing them when they began playing against the pros
Michelle @ 14/15
Tiger @ 18/19
Results-wise there is no comparison, but I think the 4 year age difference accounts for any advantage Michelle my have due to females' earlier physical maturity. Time will tell. The fact that she did this in Hawaii is of minimal relevance though IMO.
I'm just comparing them when they began playing against the pros
Michelle @ 14/15
Tiger @ 18/19
Results-wise there is no comparison, but I think the 5 year age difference accounts for any advantage Michelle my have due to females' earlier physical maturity. Time will tell. The fact that she did this in Hawaii is of minimal relevance though IMO.
Age differences, female maturity....blah, blah, blah. When Wie starts making cuts and winning on the PGA Tour...I'll start comparing her to Tiger. She's got 5 years to get to the level Tiger was at 20. Do you think she'll be anywhere near what Tiger was at that age? Until then, she's just an orange.
BTW I'll believe her playing "home games" is of minimal relevance when she repeats her performance on the mainland.
Age differences, female maturity....blah, blah, blah. When Wie starts making cuts and winning on the PGA Tour...I'll start comparing her to Tiger. She's got 5 years to get to the level Tiger was at 20. Do you think she'll be anywhere near what Tiger was at that age? Until then, she's just an orange.
I don't think she'll ever be a major factor on the PGA tour, but I believe she'll be as dominant on the LPGA as Tiger has been on the PGA and she'll do it sooner.
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BTW I'll believe her playing "home games" is of minimal relevance when she repeats her performance on the mainland.
If I was from the "Show Me" state I wouldn't be stuck in the snow here!
Wie may, or may not, turn out to be as "dominant" as her fans claim she will be. Until she starts winning something (or anything) it's just all wishful thinking. She seems to have been handed the keys to the car and she doesn't have a license to drive yet.
So in other words, from your own comparison earlier, she should be winning an LPGA major by the time she's 17 and by the time she's old enough to drink she'll have won all four majors in a row? Wow, that is wishful thinking!
She will be a star on the LPGA Tour, but it's definitely jumping the gun to say that because she her tour stats at this point in her development (to say nothing of her performance against the amateurs-care to compare that? ) compare favorably to Tiger's at the same point, it means that she'll be anywhere near the dominant force Tiger was. I think Paula Creamer, Aree Song, and a few others will have something to say about that. Fact is, she hasn't won anything of importance, save for the Women's Publinks.
I don't think she'll ever be a major factor on the PGA tour, but I believe she'll be as dominant on the LPGA as Tiger has been on the PGA and she'll do it sooner.
I dont agree, there is a lot of great players on the LPGA tour.
i think we're all haters....come on...who on this forum wouldnt want their game to be like michelle's right now?? i'd take her 15 yr old game anyday compared to my XX yr old game...
First off, the local course idea doesn't hold water, IMO. Anyone who has ever been to the island of Oahu knows that Turtle Bay would not be a local course for any Honolulu resident. The fact is, I've only played the Arnold Palmer course once in my entire life. I played the next door Fazio course yesterday (for the first time) since I caught some of the final round action of the SBS Open. So then you might be saying, "well, Michelle is used to grainy Bermuda greens" but the greens at Turtle Bay are paspalum. The one thing she may be used to is playing in windy conditions. I have honestly never played in winds as bad as they were on Saturday.
I think Michelle Wie deserves a lot of credit for her performance. She's 15 and came in a tie for 2nd in an LPGA Tour event. Was the field weak? Depends on your perspective. Annika wasn't there but I heard there were something like 24 or 26 of the top 30 LPGA Tour players there. Doesn't sound too weak if you ask me.
Will she be to the LPGA Tour what Tiger is to the PGA Tour? Who knows? Only time can tell. But from what I've seen so far, I certainly think Michelle has a bright future.
So in other words, from your own comparison earlier, she should be winning an LPGA major by the time she's 17 and by the time she's old enough to drink she'll have won all four majors in a row? Wow, that is wishful thinking!
I was just throwing you guys a bone because because of all of the "girls mature physically quicker than boys" blah, blah, blah that you guys use to explain Michelle's ability to compete against the best at such a young age...which I don't necessarily find to be all that persuasive. I think that by the time Wie decides to compete full time on the LPGA, she will quickly become THE dominant force and could very well start racking up wins ala Tiger. That may not happen by the time she's 17... she's still in high school for a couple more years , for goodness sake. I let myself walk right into your trap, Card by granting Tiger that 4 years of leeway. Let me correct that. Tiger could hit the ball > 300 yards by the time he was 15 and he'd been playing since he could walk, so let's get back to apples and apples - Tiger @15 vs. Michelle@15. Tiger was never competitive against the best pros until after he turned pro @19.
February 27th, 2005, 10:17 PM
Tiger at 14 wasn't competing against LPGA talent. He was competing against the best players in the world. If Wie comes within light years of accomplishing in her career what Tiger has........then maybe you can compare them. Until then, any comparison between Woods and Wie is about as apples and oranges as you can get.
Until she starts winning something (or anything) it's just all wishful thinking. She seems to have been handed the keys to the car and she doesn't have a license to drive yet. 
) compare favorably to Tiger's at the same point, it means that she'll be anywhere near the dominant force Tiger was. I think Paula Creamer, Aree Song, and a few others will have something to say about that. Fact is, she hasn't won anything of importance, save for the Women's Publinks.
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