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There's no crying in golf! My apologies to Tom Hanks.

Come on guys, during the Ryder cup and all, every analysts blame American Golfers for not being hungry enough and they're making enough money so they're are fat, dumb and happy. Now the kid cares about the game and win, someone hungry for the win and get emotionally involved ( vs. Robot like golfers ) - now we're saying he's not professional? Come-on. I rather see very emotional gamers than ice-frozen faces. Retif Goosen is a good golfer but he's boring to watch - nothing ever happens to his face..

Crying for joy is acceptable, but crying out of disappointment is not?

For crying out loud, what are we debating here? Perhaps the issue is more about being a "good loser," and the crying is being viewed as a less than gracious acceptance of the vicissitudes of fate. It may also indicate a problem of perspective: Losing a family member or a close friend warrants tears, but losing a golf match doesn't. If the least disappointment produces tears, doesn't that somehow cheapen the tears shed for real tragedies?

Didnt Sergio cry after getting blown of the course at Carnastie in 99 (granted he was only 19 at the time)

Without getting all Dr Phil on y'all, IMO crying is a healthy release of emotion regardless of the circumstances or the gender.

I agree, waz...I think the last time I cried over losing a competition was when I lost the Pinewood Derby Race in Boy Scouts...it happens when you fall short of something you really, really have your heart set on. I worked on that car for so long only to suffer a mechanical malfunction and a loss. I wouldn't say that the reason I haven't cried over a competitive loss since then is because I'm any less emotional, I just don't think I've set my heart on anything to that extent since then. I have certainly cried in public...sobbed, in fact, at a dear friend's funeral (father figure). I think anyone(men) who can't cry or show their emotions in public are the ones with issues, be it maturity, denial, pride, etc. Any guy who thinks its effeminate to show emotion in public is not secure in his masculinity, imo.

btw...extra credit to you for spelling y'all correctly... from this Texan.

Shade

Men/boys aren't allowed. I don't know if this generation is different. But boys crying was unthinkable to my dad & he handed it down to me. Emotion repressed is unhealthy IMO, that is emotions that do others no harm of course.

Watching Oprah yesterday, I heard a psychiatrist say that 1 in 25 of us is a sociopath, unable to really feel any real emotions at all, just more or less faking our way through life imitating what we've seen and heard.

Since the most emotion exhibited by Clint Eastwood characters is a kind of wince when something bad happens, I guess that's how I should react, huh?

this is the point of the post where i began questioning your manhood.

Valeogut, Valeogut, Valeogut......Oprah? Please! I'm embarrassed for you.

If you're watching Oprah......maybe you prefer the singing and dancing Clint in Paint Your Wagon!

wow seems i've seen many sporting events (super bowl world series tennis and now golf ) where the players have lelf everything they had on the playing field and are drained in every way.... after the loss they just break down i see nothing wrong with showing emotion in this case..... after all your striving to be the best player or team on a given day.

as for jshook did he beat you up in highschool or something what a statement

And granted that was at the Open. . . ****, I would have cried too.

Guys, guys, guys...relax, please. I was just making a little joke about the feminization of the American male at my expense and the "need" to be sensitive and "in touch" with one's emotions, and the speed with which a traditional, stoic male is viewed as a sociopath if he doesn't break down in public on a regular basis.

But, Crying all right with me as long as the tears don't slow down the game or interfere with your aim. :nodsmiley

Ok then. Now that you've put it that way......I liked Paint Your Wagon too!